Q: Jim, there has been an ongoing debate for some time as to the impact of chill filtering on the flavor and mouth feel of whiskey, Some claim it has little impact others say it has little. Do you feel chill filtering impacts your bourbon and if so in what ways? Does Four Roses chill filter every bourbon that has water added to it
JR: Chill filtering cam

FRD chill filters YL and both Small Batch and Single Barrel, and I've tried to explain the NON-necessity to chill filter both higher strength labels. We don't chill filter any of our Limited Edition offerings or barrel strength private barrel selections.
Chill filtering involves lowering the temperature of product to below 20 degrees F. and letting it set for ~24 hours. After that period of time the fatty acids are not visible to the naked eye, but they have begun to solidify and may be filtered. I'd far prefer Small Batch, and especially Single Barrel were Not chill filtered. With removal of fatty acids some flavor, and body, are lost. In lieu of chill filtering some distillers add a chemical to generate a precipate. Of the two options I prefer chill filtering - even if it is far more costly....
I don't think it makes a difference what type equipment is used to chill the Bourbon, except from an efficiency perspective. The major change we made a few years back was in our filtering media which after changed aided us by not removing as much color in the process. Flavor was not impacted - once the fatty acids are gone they're gone. I'm an advocate of chill filtering Bourbon equal to or less than 86 proof, but when it's not necessary I'd far prefer Not Chill Filtering.
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Thanks for sharing this with us Greg. I've enjoyed the first 2 posts and look forward to the rest of them.
ReplyDeleteAs for the chill filtering issue, I'm a little confused. From what Mr. Rutledge is telling us, why would any distiller go through the extra expense of this process if it isn't necessary?(except for spirits under 86 proof) Especially if some flavor and body is lost. I'm not arguing his facts, I'm just not used to companies spending money where they don't need to. Did I miss something?
Gary
ReplyDeleteBingo! This is the crux of the issue. We asked the same question to Truman Cox and his response was similar to Jim's. Some argue that there is really no loss of flavor or body. This of course is disputed by enthusiasts so to me, this one is a head scratcher. I wish I had a clear answer but the reality is there are so many factors that go into the "flavor profile" of a bourbon I would think it would be hard to tell. Truman says he can tell, I'm not sure I can. So, I don't think you missed anything, I think this is a topic that is possibly subjective. I've certainly been known to be wrong as I'm sure there are those that can tell a difference.....or at least they say they can.
I'm a bit surprised Four Roses Single Barrel is chill filtered because at 50% ABV the process is completely unnecessary. From what I've read, 46% is the magic number where no precipitate forms because there is enough alcohol molecules to hold those fatty acids. Granted those solids will still form once any water is added...
ReplyDeleteI agree and when it was pointed out to Truman the 86% threshold, he agreed. To be honest, I'm still a little unclear as to why it's really necessary. I'm having dinner with Dave Perkins from Highwest Distilling next week and will pose the same question to him.
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